Friday, August 04, 2006

Israel's respect of international law




50 Comments:

Anonymous ghassan karam said...

I am a Lebanese who has been a srtong supporter of the Palestinian cause for decades through essays, lectures, conferences...
But I also strongly believe that when an issue is to be discussed then we have an obligation to present the facts as they are. My sense is that all the above resolutions were passed under chapter six and as a result they declare, condemn, deplore but do not order a specifc remedy. As such they do not carry the weight of law and if they are not implemented then not much can be done.

UNSC resolution 1559, on the other hand, is passed under chapter seven. Such a resolution entitles the UN to use force if it must to make sure that the resolution in question is implemented. These resolution in essence order the affected countries to undertake some measures otherwise the UN will be forced to ensure compliance. It is also important to note that ,to the best of my knowledge, each and every UNSC resolution under chapter seven with the exception of 1559 has been implemented. In conclusion, I find it difficult for the international community to accept anything short of full implementation of 1559.

August 04, 2006 1:25 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heil Hitler, may all teh jews be killed, thank you for this blog

August 04, 2006 1:32 pm  
Blogger JoseyWales said...

Both sides are in violation of some resolutions.

What is the point of repeating useless facts?

We know how this started and how it can stop. We also know the balance of power.

People like you tacitly help Nasrallah and the killing, by not criticizing him and by sidestepping the problem (which for the Lebanese is NOT what happened in 1948 and since).

Enough stupid posters and candle vigils.

August 04, 2006 1:32 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What else would you expect here, a balanced look at this conflict, this is one of the most racists "kill all the jews because hitler forgot some" blogs on the web! wonder how long it will take them to remove this post

August 04, 2006 1:36 pm  
Blogger Nasser said...

Ghassan,
Thanks for your comment. But the argument here is not against 1559 per se. The poser clearly shows the weight Israel gives to the so-called international community. As long Israel feels immune from international accountability, injustice will prevail and radicalisation will continue.

August 04, 2006 1:40 pm  
Blogger Nasser said...

Oh anonymous,
From where did you get to this conclusion? or it has become a tradition to be treated as anti-jew or anti-semite when one attacks Israel. No, this blog shows the atrocities the State of Israel (aka children-killer) is doing on daily basis in the name of democracy etc...

August 04, 2006 1:44 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nasser you are stupid.
Israel cares about civilians and feel sorry for every Lebanese civilian killed.
But the stupid coward Nasrallah and his many followers throw 200 missiles a day - only to attack civilians in Israel.
May he meet his Allah soon.

August 04, 2006 1:54 pm  
Blogger Nasser said...

Oh anonymous; you are showing the stupidity your Olmert has excelled in the last 22 days. Run away from military failures at the borders and kill civilians in Qana, Srifa, Beirut, baalbak and just minutes ago in qaa in Hermel. Do I need to remind you of the 900 civilians killed so far by your 'moral' army.

I wish you are brave enough to sign your name - errrr you are an IDF cyber soldier and IDF has become an echelon of cowerds

August 04, 2006 2:02 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are still so stupid Nasser.
If Israel used their weapons in the same manor as the coward Nasrallah uses his misiles - there would be no Lebanese civilians left. But thanks to the very high moral of the Israelian army the civilian loss is limited.
I am Ahmed and lives a great life in Denmark.

August 04, 2006 2:14 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ahmed, your ignorance will only cause you harm. Living in Denmark and still thinking the way you do? I might be able to understand the ignorance of an Israeli living in Israel, the media there doesn't help. But people like you are the most stupid of all... I laugh when i read "moral" and "Israeli army" next to eachother. Are you blind or what?

August 04, 2006 2:39 pm  
Blogger LebExile said...

No, who says we want a ceasefire, Hezbollah will win, they will win, if we keep saying it, they will win.... just look around you - they are winning ... cant you see it ... through all the smoke, and broken windows ... yes, allah is smilling down on us, our allmighty Hezbollah is winning ....

I just hope there is not a ceasefire untill Hezbollah win totally, and there is no Hezbollah left...

August 04, 2006 2:46 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nasser
Who started this war??
Even you feel I am blind I still believe that Israel could have finished this war in a couple of days - if they did not care about civilians.
The stupid coward Nasrallah and his followers do not care at all about civilians and hides behind women and children.
Let us stop this discussion for now.
Ahmed in Denmark.

August 04, 2006 2:51 pm  
Anonymous zeyna said...

to Ahmad / Anonymous ,

before making statements such as Israel " DONT " want to target civilans ...go get a history lesson ..
hezbollah was born BECAUSE israel keeps violating ON and on and on lebanon ... and NO ..israel dont feel sorry killing the civilans ..
their civilans are well protected in the shelters ( each shelter have satellite tvs and web connection ...well prepared ) they built within every building ..why ? becaise from the first moment israel existed ...they knew violence would be there because their hole existence is based on it ..on vilating other people's land .. so dont whine about Israel ...instead ..go get a history lesson and use the logic in your brain.. if you have any .

August 04, 2006 2:54 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to Zeyna.
It seems that you and I got different history books.
By the way explain me why hezbollah are waisting all their Iranian missiles targeting the civilian population in Israel - if all are so well protected in shelters as you say.
It is a shame that the Lebanese government could not take care of their own people by disarming the political party hezbollah long ago.
Ahmed in Denmark

August 04, 2006 3:10 pm  
Anonymous zeyna said...

Ahmed.

there is one history book documented by facts and picutres / viedos taken by the media world wide .

50 something civilans on one hand ...850 civilians on the other ..all killed during this 3 weeks old war .

isreali civilas killed were out and bout although Sirens were on in thier cities .. another proof of how well israel is prepared to live amongst attacks and vilience. ..even they have logic in their brains to expect attacks from all around since they know their policy an exixtence will bring such reactions ..as per newton's euqation .

Iranian missiles are being fired in reply to US " SMART "missiles fired by Isrealis ..

finally , u dont seem to know lebanon as well as you claim ..
lebanese goverment HAS to have representatives of all their community including shiite muslims which constitute approx 40 % of the whole population ..going by your say ..Lebanese goverment shoul dive in into a civil war to elminate hezbollah and to keep most of their southern territories under israeli occupation ..
wow ..very logical indeed

August 04, 2006 3:25 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Zeyna.
The fact is not at all documented.
No-one knows the figure of killed civilians.
Hezbollah (Iran) knew that Israel has a lot of "Smart Bombs". So why did they start this war by entering Israel (take 2 soldiers hostgae and kill 8 others). For me this is not very logical at all.
I never said that Lebanese goverment should eliminate hezbollah - they should only disarm them.
Anyway Israel has now been forced to do the job at a very costly price for the innocent among the Lebanese people.
Ahmed in Denmark

August 04, 2006 3:44 pm  
Anonymous ghassan said...

Nasser,
I am afraid that either I failed to make my point clearly or you have not understood my post.
Resolutions under chapter six only suggest and recommenta solution but they do not dictate one. As countries have no obligations to implement them and thus THEY ARE NOT to be see as VIOLATING these resolutions. If I am not mistaken all the resolutions listed in the original post are passed under chapter six and thus there is no enforcement power that accompanies them. You cannot be held in violation of something that you do not have to do!!!

August 04, 2006 3:55 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ghassan
You are 100 percent correct.
Ahmed in Denmark

August 04, 2006 4:00 pm  
Anonymous zeyna said...

Ahmed .

Again , by your say ..we should submitt to Israel's force and wishes .. let them occupy our land , keep our prisoners ..( an by Saying OURS i mean LEBANESE ..not IRANIANS ) .. and we shoud wait for the world to solve our problems .. which hopefully would be in a parallel universe maybe !
Even Pro -israel opinions world wide think that the reaction was way too strong for the mere capture of 2 soldiers ..which was announced multiple times by nasrallah in the 3 months prior to this war .. a reply of such a magnitude to a simple military tactical operation is an indication to the already planned war that the GOverment of israel was waiting for the right time to do ... soldiers or no soldiers ..israel wanted to keep the occupied land ..keep the prisoners and get rid of Hizbollah .. War was happenin .

if any lebanese have a sense of patrionism ..they would back the people who with such basic weapons shook Israel and prooved that smart bombs will never destroy the pride of lebanese people .

August 04, 2006 4:00 pm  
Blogger Yankee_James said...

This is one of the best blogs I've seen! Lots of TRUTH!

August 04, 2006 4:14 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Zeyna.
Please go ahead and back Hizbollah.
Hizbollah a party who do not recognize Israels right to exist.
Back Hizbollah - the army of Allah.
You will be a sure looser.
Hizbollah is the sword and Iran the hand.
Ahmed in Denmark

August 04, 2006 4:18 pm  
Anonymous Zeyna said...

Ahmed in Danemark

My support is for the people who are fighting Israel 's aggression , occupation of lebanese territories .fighting against a country who thinks they can do just about anything and get away with it because its their god given right and that they used to live in this land 3000 years ago !
my support is ideological..wether these people defending lebanon are hizbollah ...or any other lebanese party .
Again ...Hzbollah would have never existed if isreal didnt create such outrageous acts of violence in the first place .
my support is for lebanon ..its right to exist and live in peace and for the lebanese's amazing will to live .

August 04, 2006 4:29 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Zeyna.
I absolutely also support Lebanon - this is not the issue.
I thought the occupied territories belonged to Syria (according to UN).
Ahmed in Denmark

August 04, 2006 4:35 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ahmed
Very good points, glad to hear that all of Europe does not think like France. WS in the U.S.

August 04, 2006 5:07 pm  
Anonymous Zeyna said...

Ahmed ,

U have been through all your messages posted here " supporting " lebanon ??? by saying that israel dont want to kill civilians and sympthizing with them ? i dont think so .
the occupied lands are lebanese ...or else there wouldnt be any issue here would it ?
Lebeanese Govrment think so .. UN did not reach a final conclusion yet ...
once our goverment an UN decide it belongs to Syria ...lebanon would stop claming the land.and it would b syria's war ...till then ...it is still ours and freeing it from occupation is still within the 7 demands that the lebanese goverment gave as a solution to this whole mess.

August 04, 2006 5:11 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Zeyna
Please understand one thing now.
Israel cares a lot of civilians in Lebanon. Due to this fact the war takes time. If Israel did not care it would have taken them maximum 6 days to finish their objective.
As I see the situation Israel is fighting for their homes and right to exist.
Iran´s crazy president will one day soon face a big problem from Israel - it will be a tremndous blow to him and his mullahs - he and they deserves it 100 percent.
I do not understand why you always state that Israel do not care about civilians - do not try to compare the Israelians with all the fanatics and radical moslims all over the world - they are only and always targeting civilians.
Ahmed in Denmark

August 04, 2006 5:35 pm  
Blogger Maya said...

Ya Ahmad,
I don’t think that Hizbollas militants were sitting among or hiding behind the 60 innocent civilians that were killed in Qana. Can you explain why did the Israelis attack the press, the bridges, civilians in the south, on the roads in Qaa just few hours ago. Being with or against Hizbollah is not the issue at this moment. We should all be thinking about how can we have a quick and total ceasefire. There is no need to tell you that the results of this war are catastrophic on the Lebanese side, hundreds of people displaced, the Lebanese infrastructure greatly damaged, and this is not to forget the 900 people killed and more than 3000 people injured… Besides if you are with the UN resolution 1559 as many Lebanese are, and if this resolution falls under Chapter 7 as Ghassan said, then definitely it is not the task of the Israelis to implement it for us.

August 04, 2006 5:38 pm  
Anonymous zeyna said...

Ahmed ,
woow ..we should be gratefull for Israel 's compassion then?
I DONT CARE about Iran or the radical muslims around the world .. i care about lebanon and what is happening at the moment ..

and israel can like u stated kill triple the amount of civilians if they wanted .in a shorter period of time too ...but they are refraining from doing so NOT because of their " high morals " ..or because of their compassion with lebanese people...its simple ...its " PR " ...the world today is different from 1982 ..Media is playing its role in showing as much truth as possible thruogh the horrifc pictures of all massacres commited....2/3 of the world opinions are condemning israel for the mssacres done in lebanon during this war ..and the world opinion matters grealty to Israel ..
thats a fact ...go check the Israeli's media websites and the comments posted there and you will know what i mean .
Look beying your hate for Iran / hezbollah/ any type of fanatics ... and know the real reason behind this war .

August 04, 2006 5:53 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Maya
As I learned it was not 60 civilians in Qana but less than 30. But of course this is 30 civilians too much.
The results on both sides are catastrophic.
I honestly believe that it is upto Israel to see that resolution 1559 are implemented - for the safety of Israel.

To Zenya
Should the Israelian just sit and wait for the missiles fired from Lebanon??? And just do nothing???? Israel left Lebanon 6 years ago - they had no intention to go back.

Ahmed in Denmark

August 04, 2006 6:06 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Maya Zenya and all others.
Our discussion here leads to nothing.
Please be constructive and tell me how peace can be obtained between Lebanon and Israel - a peace which should guarantee Israels right to exist - awating your answers.
Ahmed in Denmark

August 04, 2006 6:19 pm  
Anonymous zeyna said...

Ahmed ...

the answers were already provided by the Lebanese goverment ...
Its simple ..
Israel is to stop the aggression / withdraw from lebanese territories and hand in the prisoners...
after that hezbollah will be disarmed and will become like any other lebanese political party in lebanon representing a slice of lebanese society .

i wonder why Israel is keeping its agressions ? why they are refusing to accept theses terms ??
is it because hezbollah is capable of blowing off their whole " existence " as you call it ? pleaaaase.... they started by olmert declaring he wants to eliminate hezbollah ...then it went to the disarment ..then to the exixtence of Intl forces on a 20 km zone deep into lebanon ....

Israel here is trying to proove they have a right to exist by not stopping this war ...they are trying to teach all Arabs a lesson through distroying lebanon ...
GOOD LUCK IN YOUR CAMPAIGN TO SUPPORT ISRAEL's EXISTENCE .

August 04, 2006 7:12 pm  
Anonymous Nadine said...

Dear Anonymous and Ahmed,

I'm not Zeyna or Maya but I tell you that up until all this started I wanted peace with Israel. The naive in me belived that one day we could put the past behind us and be friends. Now, it's another story.

1- I don't think we can ever be friends, because the state os Israel is not content with occupying Palestine fro so many years, I wants to occupy all the "promised land" and kick us out of our rightfull lands.

2- With what authority any Israeli demands the right for the state of Israel to exist? It was build on massacres, bloodshed and destruction. It is unacceptable a that a country like that should be EVER be allowed to exist.

3- There is no cause, NONE, that justifies the killing of innocents specially when most of them are children.

4- Regarding the disarming of Hizbollah, it is a Lebanese and Lebanese only decision as to when and how Hizbollah should be disarmed. Please be so kidn as to allow us to take our own decisions.

5- It really shows that this war is not affecting any of you or else you would only want one action: ceasefire. Let us live in Peace, we've had enough! We only wnat to live in peace...

August 04, 2006 7:33 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Nadine
Israel's right to exist??
There were Jews living in Israel throughout history, before the European Jews returned to Israel after the Holocaust, before Sephardi Jews fled from their oppressors in their respective countries, there have ALWAYS been Jews there, and they were the only ones doing anything with the land. When exiled Jews returned to Israel, there were bits of land bought from the Arabs, with good money, which the Jews cultivated and turned barren and diseased land into a country that exports fresh product. Oh, then the Arabs, who laughed at the Jews and called them crazy for working useless soil, suddenly cried for their stolen land.

And one more point: Before the Israelis won the land in the 1967 war,
Gaza was owned by Egypt, the West Bank was owned by Jordan,
and there were no “Palestinians.” The so-called Palestinians are really just refugees who refuse to go back to their countries. Cry as they may, Israel has given them a better life than their countries of origin, that is why they stay.

Genuine peace between Arabs and Jews will remain elusive until the Palestinians are cured of the hallucination that the Jewish state can be destroyed. Until that time, Israel will have no choice but to act unilaterally to keep suicide bombers off the streets of Tel Aviv and hezbollahs missiles of the Israelian soil.
Ahmed in Denmark

August 04, 2006 8:02 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

3 Israeli Arabs killed today.
Nassrallah is killing more Israeli Arabs than Jews. What an Idiot this guy is.

August 04, 2006 8:46 pm  
Anonymous Raja said...

Aaha how nice, the Ziobots are back. This time they actually are *trying* to be creative! Lets see:

Anyonmous (who signs off as "Ahmed in Denmark" - what a nice guy, he actually wants us to know that he IS Ahmed, and that he is in Denmark! so sweet! Maybe I should sign off as Yossi in Tel Aviv, so you'll believe me!) says:

"There were Jews living in Israel throughout history,"

Nice try pal, but wrong! There were Jewish people living in Palestine, and in Yemen, and in Egypt. There was no such geographical-political entity/thing as Israel except in the heads of the believers.

Raja

August 04, 2006 9:12 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No matter how you feel about it, the truth is:
* If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence.
* If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.

August 04, 2006 9:19 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Yossi in Tel Aviv,
And so what?? There were Jews living in Palestine throughout history.
Ahmed in Denmark

August 04, 2006 9:23 pm  
Anonymous Raja said...

As there were Jews living in Denmark, so what do you propose? Colonize, ethnic-cleanse and carpet bomb Denmark? Are you out of your mind?
Raja

August 04, 2006 9:24 pm  
Anonymous Raja said...

What a joke! Anyonmyous "scaredly cat" says:

* If the Arabs put down their weapons today, there would be no more violence.
* If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel.

In reality we can say with accuracy that:
* If Arabs put down their weapons, there would be no more Arabs.
* If Israelis (dont assume Israelis speak for all Jews!) put down their weapons today, there would be no third world war,
and yes, if Israelis put down their weapons, Americans would have money to build schools, provide healthcare and take care of their elderly. Maybe even send some of that money to Africa, Asia and Europe to help the needy.

Raja

August 04, 2006 9:28 pm  
Anonymous Zeyna said...

"If the Jews put down their weapons today, there would be no more Israel"
Mr. Anonymous,ahmed or whoever you are ...obviously ur exactly the same as the people your so violently attacking ..ie. FANATICS ..
couple of comments on your above statement
1st- you mean if ISRAEL put down its weapon ..not JEWS ..cuz some jews are totally against all this mess ...
2nd- dont forget that all these fanatic radical anti-israel movements were born BECAUSE of the israeli violence ..which keeps and will keep cultivating more of these movements and resistence as long as there is violence from israel's end . ( palestinians suicide bombers existed due to israel's atrocity towards their fmailies and fellow citizens ..israel practically helped deliver the S.B. into the world ) ..

Basically ..your statement should b as follow ...

If Israel puts down their weapons today, there would be no more reasons for violence to exist ..
.

August 04, 2006 9:57 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Zeyna,

I like your fantacy. 99% arabs leave in poverty and oppression. It much easier for Arab Leaders to support Anti-Israeli cause then create healthy and robost economy.
There are bunch of moderate arabs countries which have accepted existence of Israel but some others use Israeli mantra to deviate public attention from internal problems. It really does not matter what Israel does and how many concession it has made. The very fact that countries like Syria and Iran view Israel as threat in order to deviate its population from the internal problems, nothing will help. I cannot believe that burning flags and shouting death to Israel and declarating this (Iran) openly is a policy them can be met with concession from Israeli side. Europe made concession to Hitler and ended up in WWII. This why the regimes in this countries must be changed before they gain nuke capabilities.

Dan

August 04, 2006 10:31 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Zeyna,
Zeyna we have seen the “nuke capabilities” of Iraq; which was none!
The problem to create healthy and good economy for these countries is fact that they don’t want their oil to sale for very cheap price to the powers of this world. The only reason for some Arabic countries that you call moderate are sailing their oil cheap to these same powers. Israel is a tool for these powers but Israel has its own hunger for land so he is happy to do so. You are saying what you believe I don’t blame you but I suggest you open your eyes and see what is happening around you!
Outsider

August 05, 2006 3:29 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But repeating what some Arab leaders (so-called radical islamists) say in heat , without taking into consideration the context and framework is just creating more turmoil, misunderstanding and resentment. Israeli army looks like the monstrous delirium of a nation which, after the Holocaust, has turned psychopath. Selling arms to this army as it stands now, set to kill and destroy, to conquer and destroy at whatever human cost, is like giving guns and knives to a schizophrenic patient after stopping his/her treatment.
Briefly: assassination can't be a motive for assassination. When will retaliation and revenge stop? How? Generations will grow up in fury against the Israeli, is that what they want? IMHO, the Israeli people (whom i regard as sharing my human nature) are being misled. Anyway, if you are an Israeli and choose not to fight in this war, this unlawful war, you're sent to jail (or shot i guess). So let's also pity the Israeli people.

August 05, 2006 4:18 am  
Anonymous ZEYNA said...

Please guys or the same ANONYMOUS person !!
we all know israel wil never stop to exist , but analysing the reasons behind all this violence in the region might be the solution ..
Israel is not making things simpler or easier for its existence by acting so violently towards the Palestians throughout all these years and now towards lebanon .,,VIOLNCE CREATE VIOLENCE ,,specially if your means are not as powerfull as the opressor ...which will eventually create horrible alternatives ..hence suicide bombers and fanatics ..
my position from these radicals is the same as any other normal human being ...unfortunately these people use religion and get blinded..because FOR THEM ( after most of their friends and families have been killed by the " enemy " they see dead ends everywhere...and no light at end of the tunnel..and the sad thing here it is creating huge wave of violence and fanatic behaviors )
my beleives are that innocents should not be killed on both sides ..but the root of the problem is known ... proptecting yourself is something ...making massive / children massacres under the pretex of self protection is something else .
i am not here to dicuss Iraq , syria , Iran , Egypt , Jordan or the gulf counntries ... every country look for its own piece from this whole M.E. mess ..and thats no surprise .

My concern is what is happenin to one of the immediate neighbouring countries of Israel ....LEbanon .
If israel really wants to show it wants peace ... the 7 demands given by the Lebananese goverment 10 days ago where a good enough reason to show good faith .

August 05, 2006 7:01 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To Zeyna from Anonymous 3:29
I want to apologize for pointing my comment to you. Originally I wanted to point it to Dan. Sorry about that. Peace to all!
Outsider

August 05, 2006 8:16 am  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great quote, I couldn't agree more In a recent interview, General Norman Schwartzkopf was asked if he thought there was room for forgiveness toward Hizbollah The General said, " I believe that forgiving Hizbollah is God's function. The Israeli's job is to arrange the meeting."

August 05, 2006 9:14 am  
Blogger mike-ch said...

As a spectator from switerland i acknowledge frustrated that the violence won't stop. It is the result of at least six decades of denying minority rights by ALL regimes in the region. It is too late and not only since one month... i feel with the peoples of both countries that have to take extrem choices as risking their lives in combat or fleeing their homelands... i do not think i'm better in moral, i would never accept a threat to my familiy, so i guess i would also take arms either i'd be born in southern lebanon or israel or palestine.

There are a few points that seem to be obvious to me and that i would like to adress to members of democratic electorates in europe and israel:
Hezbolla is considered a terroristic organisation according to the ruling of EU. How could you therefore expect hezbolla to respect the laws of war?
Hezbolla is put in the light of a freedom-fighter guerilla army by the result of the fighting by now. How could you possibly want that outcome as a result of a self-defense-operation?
UN is NOT a democratic organisation (although the best instrument available at the time). How could you expect UN to have the moral authority to enforce it's resolutions?
Israeli administration, elected democratically by it's people, ratificated the laws of war. You could expect isreali gouvernement not only to respect the laws of war but also to enforce them!
I assume that isreali army follows laws of war and differs civlians and guerilla forces in targeting. How could israeli gouvernement possibly accept that succession-rate?

Personally i feel sorry, that there is not more opposition within the electorate of israel and especially within the officers corps of isreali defense forces against the violations of laws of war commited while carring out an action that is delared as selfe-defense by the israeli gouvernement. And feel sorry that there could be not more opposition against the terroristic nature of hezbolla in lebanon. I believe that democratic states need to meet higher moralic standards than unlegitime guerilla forces and i would challenge my governement on that if i could... Unless that moral was to put the killing of civilians in the same statistic ignoring what nationality they have and seeing civilans as hostages, that you must not kill while freeing them, the ongoing war seems unlegitime to me and i hope there is opposition working to get that moral into place.

August 06, 2006 12:11 pm  
Anonymous Raja said...

To all Anyonymous Zionists on this forum:
You ought to be ashamed. first, with the World War 2 analogy, it is not ust ethnic identity that serves as the basis for making analogies but the specific type of politics behind the conflict. Zionist Israel is under the leadership of extremists who do not consider Arabs lives equal to their own. They are pushing for an expansionist fundamentalist war. Those who resist are labelled automatically as "terrorists." The analogy here is between Nazi Germany's expansionism and Zionist Israel's current aggression. Poland's civilian population (among which a great number of Jewish Communists and other Partisans) fought the Nazis with everything they had (which wasnt much). Today Palestinians and Lebanese people are fighting with whatever they have (which is not much). The might of the German Nazi army (and today's Zionist Army) is indisputable. But so is the rightness of resistance of the POlish resistance and the Lebanese and Palestinian resistance.

So buzz off with your stupid antics - maybe your silliness is welcome on CNN and Fox, but as you may have noticed (or did you!?) this forum has higher standards.

Raja

August 07, 2006 9:55 pm  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Raja said:
Zionist Israel is under the leadership of extremists.............
Such a statement will help the peace-process for sure.
Remember one thing.
Israel withdrew from all Lebanese territory 6 years ago.
Hezbollah started this mess totally unprovoked 4 weeks ago - and whole Lebanon are now paying the price for this terror-act.

August 07, 2006 10:07 pm  
Blogger nana said...

HEZBOLLAH ARE NOT TERROSIST THEY ARE PROTECTING LEBANON, IF IT WASN'T FOR THEM LEBANON WOULD HAVE BEEN LONG GONE BY NOW..AND RAJA WHY SHOULD THE ISRAELS KEEP OUR HUNDREDS OF PRISONS WITH THEM AND US NOT DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT,YOUR BEING SELFISH THATS WHAT YOU ARE YOU DONT THINK OF OTHER PPL,AND IF YOU REFRESH YOUR MEMORY A LITTLE YOU WILL NOW THAT IF IT WASN'T FOR HIZBOLLAH 6 YEARS AGO YOUR WOULD OF BEEN DEAD BY NOW,U DONT THINK OF IT THIS WAY THAT HIZBOLLAH IS WILLING TO GIVE UP THERE LIVES FOR LEBANON, I HATE PPL THAT TALK LIKE THAT,UR COWARDS PPL THAT TALK LIKE THAT ARE SCARED SHIT FROM ISRAEL THEY CAN'T FACE THE TRUTH, STUPID SELFISH PPL!

August 16, 2006 5:29 am  

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